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--Richard Pinet: Our options are: to have overlap of representatives with Trevor’s team (COED – Council of Ontario Educational Developers); invitation to become a member of OCULL (Ontario Council for University Lifelong Learning); to stay independent, or to find some other way to constitute ourselves. 
--Cheryl Dickie: There are two questions: a) whether to affiliate or not? b) with whom to affiliate? 
--Aldo Caputo: There is no cost for us if we affiliate; there is no downside in exploring how the relationship works; suggest pursuing that; 
--Sandy Hughes: The important question is where we will be more recognized; maybe we should have discussion on where will we be ‘bigger’ players; 
'''Discussion on Group Status''' '''Discussion on Group Status'''
--Richard Pinet: OCULL is framed around continuing education, is OCULL ‘envelope’ big enough for our group;+Richard Pinet: Our options are to have overlap of representatives with Trevor’s team (COED – Council of Ontario Educational Developers); invitation to become a member of OCULL (Ontario Council for University Lifelong Learning); to stay independent, or to find some other way to constitute ourselves.
-- Giulia Forsythe: Many presentations during the Summer Institute mentioned the importance of lifelong learning; e-learning is implicit in lifelong learning; it is not specifically mentioned, but it is there;+Cheryl Dickie: There are two questions: a) whether to affiliate or not? b) with whom to affiliate?
--Sandy Hughes: If this group wants to pursue this path, I would be surprised if OCULL would not embrace that; this might present opportunity to express ourselves;+Aldo Caputo: There is no cost for us if we affiliate; there is no downside in exploring how the relationship works; suggest pursuing that;
--Aldo Caputo: I am concerned if we are not on COED group that they can give input without consulting our group;+Sandy Hughes: The important question is where we will be more recognized; maybe we should have discussion on where will we be ‘bigger’ players;
--Richard Pinet: Could we do both (COED and OCULL)?+Richard Pinet: OCULL is framed around continuing education, is OCULL ‘envelope’ big enough for our group;
--Linda Murphy-Boyer: There is concern that our institutions will not allow our meetings if we are informal group; we can make a case for membership in both COED and OCULL;+Giulia Forsythe: Many presentations during the Summer Institute mentioned the importance of lifelong learning; e-learning is implicit in lifelong learning; it is not specifically mentioned, but it is there;
--Cheryl Dickie: Aldo is right – we need to have some relationship with COED group;+Sandy Hughes: If this group wants to pursue this path, I would be surprised if OCULL would not embrace that; this might present opportunity to express ourselves;
--Linda Murphy-Boyer: If we request formal representations does this give us status?+Aldo Caputo: I am concerned if we are not on COED group that they can give input without consulting our group;
--Richard Pinet: Yes; we are already OCULL members, so now we will just establish formal relationship;+Richard Pinet: Could we do both (COED and OCULL)?
-- Giulia Forsythe: Do we need to have some executives or just representatives?+Linda Murphy-Boyer: There is concern that our institutions will not allow our meetings if we are informal group; we can make a case for membership in both COED and OCULL;
--Richard Pinet: We constitute ourselves in relationship to these groups; this way we will be formally seated on these two groups;+Cheryl Dickie: Aldo is right – we need to have some relationship with COED group;
--Cheryl Dickie: By requesting formal relationship with these groups, these groups will need to ensure and recognize us; if we can achieve formal affiliation; we can work on justification and providing rationale for our institutions;+Linda Murphy-Boyer: If we request formal representations does this give us status?
 +Richard Pinet: Yes; we are already OCULL members, so now we will just establish formal relationship;
-There's help to be found at http://kumu.brocku.ca/help/Editing -->+Giulia Forsythe: Do we need to have some executives or just representatives?
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 +Richard Pinet: We constitute ourselves in relationship to these groups; this way we will be formally seated on these two groups;
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 +Cheryl Dickie: By requesting formal relationship with these groups, these groups will need to ensure and recognize us; if we can achieve formal affiliation; we can work on justification and providing rationale for our institutions;

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Discussion on Group Status

Richard Pinet: Our options are to have overlap of representatives with Trevor’s team (COED – Council of Ontario Educational Developers); invitation to become a member of OCULL (Ontario Council for University Lifelong Learning); to stay independent, or to find some other way to constitute ourselves.

Cheryl Dickie: There are two questions: a) whether to affiliate or not? b) with whom to affiliate?

Aldo Caputo: There is no cost for us if we affiliate; there is no downside in exploring how the relationship works; suggest pursuing that;

Sandy Hughes: The important question is where we will be more recognized; maybe we should have discussion on where will we be ‘bigger’ players;

Richard Pinet: OCULL is framed around continuing education, is OCULL ‘envelope’ big enough for our group;

Giulia Forsythe: Many presentations during the Summer Institute mentioned the importance of lifelong learning; e-learning is implicit in lifelong learning; it is not specifically mentioned, but it is there;

Sandy Hughes: If this group wants to pursue this path, I would be surprised if OCULL would not embrace that; this might present opportunity to express ourselves;

Aldo Caputo: I am concerned if we are not on COED group that they can give input without consulting our group;

Richard Pinet: Could we do both (COED and OCULL)?

Linda Murphy-Boyer: There is concern that our institutions will not allow our meetings if we are informal group; we can make a case for membership in both COED and OCULL;

Cheryl Dickie: Aldo is right – we need to have some relationship with COED group;

Linda Murphy-Boyer: If we request formal representations does this give us status?

Richard Pinet: Yes; we are already OCULL members, so now we will just establish formal relationship;

Giulia Forsythe: Do we need to have some executives or just representatives?

Richard Pinet: We constitute ourselves in relationship to these groups; this way we will be formally seated on these two groups;

Cheryl Dickie: By requesting formal relationship with these groups, these groups will need to ensure and recognize us; if we can achieve formal affiliation; we can work on justification and providing rationale for our institutions;

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