2009 Day 3 Group Status

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Discussion on Group Status

• Richard Pinet: Our options are to have overlap of representatives with Trevor’s team (COED – Council of Ontario Educational Developers); invitation to become a member of OCULL (Ontario Council for University Lifelong Learning); to stay independent, or to find some other way to constitute ourselves.

• Cheryl Dickie: There are two questions: a) whether to affiliate or not? b) with whom to affiliate?

• Aldo Caputo: There is no cost for us if we affiliate; there is no downside in exploring how the relationship works; suggest pursuing that;

• Sandy Hughes: The important question is where we will be more recognized; maybe we should have discussion on where will we be ‘bigger’ players;

• Richard Pinet: OCULL is framed around continuing education, is OCULL ‘envelope’ big enough for our group;

• Giulia Forsythe: Many presentations during the Summer Institute mentioned the importance of lifelong learning; e-learning is implicit in lifelong learning; it is not specifically mentioned, but it is there;

• Sandy Hughes: If this group wants to pursue this path, I would be surprised if OCULL would not embrace that; this might present opportunity to express ourselves;

• Aldo Caputo: I am concerned if we are not on COED group that they can give input without consulting our group;

• Richard Pinet: Could we do both (COED and OCULL)?

• Linda Murphy-Boyer: There is concern that our institutions will not allow our meetings if we are informal group; we can make a case for membership in both COED and OCULL;

• Cheryl Dickie: Aldo is right – we need to have some relationship with COED group;

• Linda Murphy-Boyer: If we request formal representations does this give us status?

• Richard Pinet: Yes; we are already OCULL members, so now we will just establish formal relationship;

• Giulia Forsythe: Do we need to have some executives or just representatives?

• Richard Pinet: We constitute ourselves in relationship to these groups; this way we will be formally seated on these two groups;

• Cheryl Dickie: By requesting formal relationship with these groups, these groups will need to ensure and recognize us; if we can achieve formal affiliation; we can work on justification and providing rationale for our institutions;