Future of the Group

• Read COU paper
• Do we want to be a part of the affiliate, COED?

Linda: we could be a subgroup or intermeshed; a number of ways and many pro's and con's

CON's -little sister to the group -if we meet as one unit, may not be interesting to the larger group -curriculum issues may not be a perfect fit -we could work with that if we were to meet in a larger group and then come back and report what we found

Sandy: -potential for gain not so much risk; not too much to lose -might the gov look to groups for funding

Andrew: -what do we have to lose?

Richard: -there is a sentiment that we are different than the T&L; may have difficulty convincing the group; work through the skepticism getting a voice heard through to the COU -there are a whole set of concerns and issues that the COU will have to listen to -we fall between the pedagogy and the technology; kind of the glue

Karen: -without trying to underestimate the value of COU affiliate status -there is no fear certainly in COU in telling us what we are interested in -OCAV reports to COU, other groups report to OCAV -they like an update, and an opportunity to have a presence at your meeting -in terms of knowing that having them understanding that "we are the experts" in the area -it has been in no way controlling

Richard: -might not spend time working out the constitional relationship

Aldo: -one model could be that we get recognized as an advisory group to the affiliate -we have members that participate in meetings or act as liaisons -there is that recognition -if there is an issue that COED is dealing with, perhaps we could be the "go to" group -I think there is that recognition by the affiliate

Richard: -Bill said he'd like the COU to recognize us as a group to seek consultation from -we may have a bit of work to do to have us be recognized as that group -think about the governance model of other groups we are involved in; fee, membership, etc. -if we want to formally

Trevor: -I wouldn't want to have this group 3rd removed from COU -If COU itself wants to deal directly with this institute and have some back and forth

Richard: -we need to follow up on the paper; how serious it is